The Alchemy of Ascension Podcast
Phil Gruber
Nov 17, 2022
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[gentle music] Welcome to the Alchemy of Ascension podcast, where we explore the multidimensionality of being divine presence embodied at this pivotal time between the old paradigm and the new earth.
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As we raise our consciousness, our awareness, and anchor higher frequencies into the body, we alchemize, we transform, we activate, we ascend. This ascension practice is what I call inception.
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As we bring more light and awareness into the body through the awakened heart, we become infinitely connected to all that is, the divine I am. I'm your host, Washayla Sananda.
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If you find this information helpful, your five-star review on iTunes will make a huge impact and make it possible for me to continue to bring you this life-changing work for free.
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We are all on this ascension journey together, growing and expanding as one big community of light. Thank you for doing your part and being part of this community. You are not alone.
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And today, it's my pleasure to introduce you to Phil Gruber. Welcome, Phil. Hi. Nice to be here, Washayla. Thank you for inviting me. I'm so happy to have you here and share you with all of the viewers today.
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So I- I'm excited to jump in with you, Phil, and first, I would love to have everyone join us in a brief alignment process so we can all get focused and on the same page and ready for this today.
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So I invite everyone just, if you're in a safe place, to close your eyes. Go ahead, close your eyes, taking a deep breath into the belly. And just relax into your body.
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And as you're breathing, bring your awareness to your heart center, making contact with the light in your heart,
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and feel that heart light glowing and growing and expanding out around your chest.
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And now take a deep inhale and send that heart light up far above your head into the center of Central Sun, making contact with the heart light of Central Sun.
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And then breathe that light down into the top of your head, down through each energy center of your body, all the way to the base of the spine, and continuing down into the center of Planet Earth.
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And find the heart of Mother Earth, the heart center of the planet, and then bring that energy up through the layers of the Earth into the base of your spine, up your spine all the way to the top of the head.
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Take a deep breath, and now join those three energies in your heart center, creating a holy trinity of light.
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And in this light, find yourself more focused and present and open to receive whatever is for your highest good in this conversation today. All right.
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Thank you for joining in that. And now I'm going to share a little bit about what Phil's up to in the world.
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Phil Gruber is a renowned teacher of sacred geometry, light language, the indigo children, advanced healing systems, the structure of time-space, the physics and metaphysics of consciousness and creation, cosmic history, the angelic worlds, and an ever-growing repertoire of fascinating subjects.
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I know this to be true. [laughs] Phil was featured in the critically acclaimed film The Indigo Evolution.
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He has spoken at the United Nations, and his first book, The Cabala Code, a collaboration with James Twyman, has been published by Hay House.
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Phil is available for private sessions as well as small group and personal one-on-one mentoring, which I know firsthand because I am being mentored by you, Phil, and you are such a wealth of information, and I'm so excited to share you with everyone today.
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And so I just love... You have such an interesting background, um, in how you got to this place. I would love to sh- have you share a little bit about your walk-in journey and your origin story. Sure.
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You know, in, in the past, I, I was ret- not reticent, but I just... I'm not always comfortable or I hadn't been comfortable talking about myself and my origins, my background, how I come to know what I know.
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But in recent years, I think it's very, very important for people to understand where I'm coming from, where this information comes from, and the fact that, uh, people like myself, people like us, we're not the sole
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custodians of this information, that what I know, what people in the know know, is something that's available for everyone. We can all learn how to access the same information directly,
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uh, uh, on site or remotely. And I think it's important that people understand that we really feel that it's important to empower people to create their own direct lines of communication with higher intelligence.
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So it's like, don't take my word for it. Use your own dedicated channels to your own higher selves because that, I think, is the authority that you can trust more than any other authority in this world.
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That should be the final arbiter, your own direct connection. Don't you agree? 100%, and I love that.
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I love that about you, and I also in my platform, it's all about empowering each individual to have their own connection, and it's certainly not about being a guru. [laughs] Yeah. No doubt about it. Well, you know,
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when I was... I don't remember much before the age of six, okay? But when I was six years old... I'm anticipating your next question. When I was six years old, I was coming back from the dentist and I got out on, uh...
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This is in America. I was raised in New Jersey. Jersey boy. And, uh, coming back from the dentist, um, I got out on the driver's side and it was estimated that Roberta Ike's father was driving at 60 miles an hour and
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h- uh, smacked right into me. And I was thrown up in the air, witnesses said, and I was thrown halfway down the street, halfway down the block. Like, really up in the air. It was a direct, uh...
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Hit me directly going upwards of 60 miles an hour. I remember... I don't remember actually landing, but the fact is I didn't have a scratch.
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Something came in and the force of the impact threw me, threw me halfway down the street and up in the air, they said.
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Well, that was when I started having these dialogues, conversations, getting these amazing downloads. It was also a time when my mother wanted to take me to a psychiatrist 'cause of the things I was talking about.
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I mean, a lot of children have imaginary playmates, but I, I doubt many of their names are Metatron, you know?
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[laughs] It was like things like that, or names of arch- angels and archangels that I would really have no reference for at six years old.
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I mean, I was managing to have a very nor- Even after the accident, I was managing to have a very normal childhood. I hung out with the popular kids. But you know what the funny thing is?
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At our, at my 20th year grammar school reunion, I realized that, yes, we were all there. M- most of my graduating class of my primary school was there, and I realized that not only was I with the popular kids...
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'Cause it was really at my house in my basement where we had most of our parties, I guess. But, um, that probably has something to do with it.
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But I also realized at that class reunion that I also was friendly with the outcasts.
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You know, there's always the, the, the, the one kid in your class hunched over with the big briefcase or the, the ones that, uh, nobody else would hang out with. I realized that the outliers...
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I was not only friends with the popular kids, but I was also friends with the outliers and the outcasts and other, you know, kids that nobody would, would play with.
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And I realized that that was probably, it was compassion. It was just loving everybody and that really, I mean, just really came into fruition really at a very, very young age. I just felt if you saw...
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Maybe later on I'll show you a, a photograph of me that was taken pretty much directly after this car accident. And all this stuff started to come in. It was a classic walk-in.
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If you really have to be here on this planet, if you really have work to do, um, there will be intervention, angelic intervention.
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I am pretty certain that angelics don't really like to intervene directly because they take a chance of coming into this, i- into our fields of getting trapped down here.
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And I know firsthand that there are a lot of trapped angelics down here that have come either for R&R... And a lot of people need to realize, of course, that there is R&R down here, too.
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When there's not a planetary activation cycle or a solar bridge or a stellar bridge or an ascension cycle or a shift of the ages, that angels will come here to visit.
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This is a beautiful planet, our planet here, and I'm convinced that a lot of angels come here for the food. A- and people will ask me why, and I think the reason is that a lot of great chefs haven't ascended yet.
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So when you're re- when you want some really, really good French cuisine or this or that, I mean, you'll come to Earth, but you always take the chance of getting trapped down here in these fields. You...
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Angels very rarely can come down in their own self-contained sort of fields. It would be too much for the Earth grids to support.
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This is why only a certain amount of avatars can come in at one time or higher beings 'cause the planet can't support the presence of too many coming in.
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This is why even the indigos that I'm sure we'll talk about in a little bit, it first came in dribs and drabs. A lot of people feel... I know where I was, by the way, with the six-year-old thing.
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I'll get back to that in a second. But it really all dovetails in that a lot of people think the indigos came in in the '70s. Indigos have been coming in in waves for over 100 years.
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But it was only in the '70s that certain mediums, clairvoyants began to notice them.
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And they had to come in just in dribs and drabs in the beginning because the planet could not sustain itself, could not hold j- the energy of a lot of these higher beings coming in.
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The planet is a little more acclimated to it now, so huge waves of com- of indigos are coming in and the most highly coded indigos are coming in in great numbers that couldn't have come in before.
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So I, I'm sure I came into this life as an, as an indigo knowing what I know now. But I feel that I needed to be, and of course it was felt by my higher s-
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identities, that I needed to be on this planet, that I had a contract I had to fulfill. So it was felt that intervention had to happen You know, sometimes it happened to my aunt also.
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Something she really felt she needed to stop the car. I remember this from a long time ago. And something pushed her foot down on the, uh, on the brake. And it wasn't just her, it was something else.
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Well, something came in and the impact threw me, but I didn't have a scratch. And this is when I started to feel like I knew what people were thinking, what they were feeling.
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I had, I, the stuff I was talking about, I'm not surprised that my mother wanted to send me to a psychiatrist.
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And I don't know if I was a prodigy before then, but I certainly, as I grew up, I was a math and science physics prodigy. I, I read some of the papers I wrote back then, and I can't even understand them now.
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I mean, [laughs] just, I, I just was this amazing prodigy. I just knew.
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I, later on in life, I became a, an analyst and a, uh, a lot of other things, uh, systems analysts, whatnot, because I just had this abstract problem-solving ability. I had a pro- I had a, I had a...
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Well, it got to be problematic a little later on because when the walk-in came, it was like living in two worlds. You have a... I think Gregg Braden used to say you have a foot in, in both worlds or something like that.
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And they, and sometimes they come together, and sometimes they start to separate where you really start to lose your balance. You know, a lot of people would say to me growing up that you don't seem grounded.
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Well, I, I think I was perfectly grounded where I happened to be.
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If someone is at a certain frequency and consciousness, and someone's at a little higher, that person who is a little lower in consciousness will probably perceive that person that's in a little bit higher as maybe being a little bit flighty, not being grounded.
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But I've always felt to take that criticism with more than a grain of salt because I've always felt that I've been perfectly grounded where I happen to be, and I've never been willing to really lower my frequency.
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Some people will to fit in because we all do wanna fit in. When this stuff happened at six years old, and it was a classic walk-in situation, I never felt like I was totally here in this world, that all of me wasn't.
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You know, I always felt there was something separating me, and I know it's what a lot of indigos feel. We're here for a special purpose or for a very deep purpose.
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You know, it must be very challenging even now for parents, your children to say to you, or you say, you know, "Where do you come from? Where's your... Or this, isn't this your real home?"
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And they point to the stars, and they go, "No, that's, that's where my home is. That's where my real parents are."
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And it must be very challenging, and I'm sure through the '50s, '60s, even years before that, even now, parents are channel- uh, challenged with their children having these incredible downloads.
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And for children to, to, to have this sort of not so much fatalistic, but some... Have you seen some of these children? They have this face. They're like existential crises at 10 years old.
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How can a child, a young child or an infant have this look, this dire look, you know, where, "What's gonna happen with the planet, Mommy?" You know? This... I mean, it's...
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You know, children should be basically worried about where they left their this or left their that. Where's my game? You know, what happened to my game? But they're worried about what's happening on the planet now.
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They're in these existential crises, and it's not normal. Well, it used to be the not normal for children to have this look of just existential kind of longing. There's a word in the Greek. It's called pathos.
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Not pathos. Pathos, it means a longing. This existential longing for a pre-existent place, for a place that we know that we're from, that we want to be involved in the earthly affairs. I mean, we want to be accepted.
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We wanna find community, fellowship. And continuing with that st- with that, with that line, it took me till my teens really to start to find that fellowship. People that were kind of like me.
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E- even though, again, you know, I, uh, hung out with normal people. I had a very normal childhood, played sports and everything. But there was always a piece of me or a part of me that I couldn't share.
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There was a part of me that knew about worlds, worlds within worlds, that knew about the anatomy of time and space, the consciousness of time itself.
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The names of d- uh, in, you know, interstellar, interplanetary, interdimensional races, dramas that have happened, memories, not so much past life, future life memories, memories of time, timelines, all this stuff, and as a, as a small child, but still managing to try to have a normal childhood.
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And the thing when I started learning more about who I was, I had a lot of help my whole life too. I've had very good teachers. I read a lot as a child.
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Of course, I was drawn to mysticism and magic, and I was reading some really heavy-duty sort of magical texts at a very, very young age.
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And later on in, in my 20s, I joined a magical fraternity, it will be nameless for the time being, where I learned a lot more.
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And again, I've had access to private libraries, being a member of a magical fraternity, a mystical magical fraternity, that the public usually doesn't get a chance to look at.
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And, um, so all the stuff that I knew when I was very young, and mentors that I've met, uh, great teachers, I've managed... I've spent a lot of my life confirming what I knew to be true when I was very, very young.
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And I'm sure a lot of people have had similar experiences, or even now, even as adults, people are, are beginning to wake up.
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And it's very good to have a frame of reference for the stuff that we know that we know, because us as parents, our parents had no... I mean, probably your parents, my parents, they had no frame.
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They don't have, they didn't have the same frame of reference that we have now.
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At least when we have children, and we understand who they are, and we understand what their issues are of a- metaphysical nature, we or people like us have more of a frame of reference to understand what they're going through.
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And we could be not only more compassionate with them, we could be more understanding because we understand what they're going through and we can give them the kind of support that we didn't have growing up.
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Want me to keep going? Well, I have, I have leaf blowers outside. Hopefully it's not, um, not causing too much, uh, background noise. But yes, thank you for sharing about all of that.
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Um, it's, it's so interesting to be that child that feels different. I also felt different growing up and kind of, uh,
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you know, developed my sense of humor around trying to fit in, you know, when I really deeply didn't feel like I fit in with the rest of my, my classmates.
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Um, and I think a lot of, a lot of us can relate to that feeling. Um, star seeds, walk-ins, and you know, all, all of the spiritual, the indigos, you know, just we're on a little bit different, uh, playground [laughs]
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in, in our energetic, uh, worlds. So I would love to jump in and, and have you share, you have so much, um, in- interesting information about the indigos and even separating them into different categories.
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Would you share about that and also how are indigos connected to walk-ins? Yeah. I also would say I'm really looking forward to my talk because I'd like to get maybe not so specific tonight.
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I'll draw some general broad strokes, but hopefully people will be interested enough s- viewing this interview, knowing you, knowing me. Oh, that's an ABBA song, isn't it? Knowing me, knowing you.
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[laughs] But, uh, very deep stuff. Mastership comes in many, many forms.
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You know, if I told you how many times or the time I spend watching Britney Spears videos and I'm looking at geometrical sort of arrangements of their dancers, Beyoncé, I see...
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To, to see things, you know, which look sort of chao- chaotic on the surface, to know that there's a deeper order under everything, you know? What, when... It's like you're up in a plane.
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When you're at ground levels, things seem very confusing, but this is what elevated consciousness can do for you. It gives you a more exalte- exalted, elevated look. You may...
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At ground level, you may not see something coming around the corner. When you go a little bit higher, you can see it coming around the corner.
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It doesn't mean that you're still not gonna get into a thing with it, but at least you have some... You can be a little ahead of the curve, you know? Having that.
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And I like to try in my classes and whatnot to really bring people up to a little more exalted, elevated place where they can look at themselves, their lives, the world, what's happening, certainly with more gratitude for being able to have this information, for being able to share it with each other, for being able to understand the real true magic of gratitude and what it does in forgiveness, and all the, and the attitudes and etiquette of spiritual mastery.
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You can have all the knowledge in the world, but the wisdom comes when you apply it, when you voluntarily apply these principles and you're doing it just like you're doing now. You're sharing. This is for the good of...
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This is for everyone. It's for the world.
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When we can find a way to serve ourselves and the world and whatever our perception of God is, I think that is the greatest success in the world, and I think there's a definition of success where you find a way to be of the most, the greatest, and most sincere and dedicated service to the most people.
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We do our best, and I think there's nothing wrong with trying either. Even the word try has come into a little sort of disfavor.
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The word try actually means just to put energy behind something or to incorporate the triunity of body, mind, and spirit, past, present, and future, triangulating. You know what I mean? The indigos, again, there were...
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The, the reason we began to be noticed in the '70s wa- especially small children because it was their life force, their vitality that made the, made these colors more visible.
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A lot of psychics, clairvoyants, mediums began to notice this indigo aura, ex- the indigo wavelength, which is just really a perception, a translation, a transduction, an interpretation of frequency, of oscillation rhythms, okay?
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Of consciousness. And the sixth, uh, the sixth dimension is translated as ca- all the dimensions, of course, they have their capstone colors, which is simply an interpretation of that vibrational rhythm.
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Sixth dimension is the indigo wavelength.
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So the reason all these small children, especially children, again, because of their youth, their vitality, their life force, psychics began to notice a lot of the indigo in their auras becau- and that's why they started calling them indigos.
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Not a lot pe- pe- not a lot of people even understand today why we were originally called indigos because it was saw, the psychic saw this preponderance of the indigo aura.
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And why do the indigos have this preponderance of indigo wavelength in their field? It's because all indigos, no matter what type or level of indigo you are, of course we call them all indigos.
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Indigos, we've been known by many names throughout time.
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We were known as the psychic, super psychic, mystical, magical, mythical children, children of the Blue Ray, children of the Blue Star Kachina, Melchizedeks, um, children, sons and daughters of paradise, Bene Or, Bene Elohim, many things.
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But w- I group them all as indigos.
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And the fact is, the reason we have all this indigo aura in our auras is because indigos, all indigos are born with a lot of the sixth strand already activated Each DNA strand is a transducer of consciousness.
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Each DN- it's important to understand that each strand of DNA, each double helix, one is electrical and one is magnetic, one is particle and one is antiparticle.
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To really understand, to- it's important to understand the true workings of the DNA. DNA is everything. What distinguishes one race from another, our hybrid race, everything can be found in the DNA.
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The memory of who and what we are is to be found in, in the DNA. If people are looking for their true genetic lineages, it's in the substrand matrix of the DNA.
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Have you noticed, and I'm sure a lot of people have noticed out there, people that channel light language, a lot of it sounds the same. And why does it sound the same?
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You know, you hear a lot of light language channelers, it sounds a little bit sort of Native American, a little bit Navajo, a little bit, uh, a little bit, uh, Oriental or Asian, a little bit of this.
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Well, that's because the light languages that we're gonna channel first are the ones that are closest to us genetically.
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So since we're activating the fourth and fifth and higher strands now, each strand is, is tuned, is programmed to process one dimension of consciousness to be able to integrate higher consciousness and expand into our larger family soul, over soul, avatar collectives, like Sananda.
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God bless you. Um, there's a lot we can say about Sananda, and I think a lot, you know, it's...
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I think a lot of us, and probably a lot of the people that are tuning in now, probably in my personal opinion, have come from the avatar collective we know as Sananda.
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Uh, a lot of my information has to do with the life and times of a being called Yeshua Sananda Melchizedek, that we can talk about at some other time. But a lot of the people are seeing 11:11 on the clock.
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Boy, there's so much places we can go. But it, it's important that each DNA strand is coded. There are transducers. Each double helix, each DNA strand is coded to process one dimension of consciousness.
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When we talk about the fifth DNA strand and the fifth dimension, we're basically talking about Pleiadian consciousness. Sixth strand processes Sirian consciousness.
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So the reason that a lot of light language channelers are sounding the same these days is because we're channeling the language that are, languages that are closest to us genetically,
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and our elder races are Pleiadian-Sirian. We have great, we have founders races too, but the ones that are closest to us in memory, in genetics, in our genetic lineage, we will probably start channeling, uh,
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a Pleiadian, Sirian, Arcturian. It depends if you have a lot of your seventh strand activated, you'll be processing a lot of Arcturian consciousness. Eighth strand relates to Orion, Orion consciousness.
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Ninth to Andromeda. 10th, 11th, and 12th to Lyran consciousness. 10th dimensional Lyra Vega, and I hate to break it to the vegans, but the vegan, the ve- the vegans I know are not necessarily vegan.
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But their meat is very, very high quality. Trust me, it is. Um, 10th, 11th dimensional [laughs]
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I'm glad you talked about humor because I'm telling you, if you didn't have a sense of humor around all this stuff and the challenges we've been through,
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and spending a lot of your life feeling you didn't belong, that you didn't have any roots...
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You know, it's interesting, even the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, Gospel of Mary Magdalene, Jesus asks Mary Magdalene, "Where are your roots?"
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'Cause he wants to hear from her that our roots just aren't in the earth, that our roots go back to a divine blueprint in the higher worlds, that we're just a reflection down here of much higher states of being, higher identities.
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That still is us. The avatar parts of our higher identities are us. It's just the consciousness of the one subdividing itself, subdividing itself, subdividing itself.
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But it's very, very important for the indigos to come in now because we've always had a very special purpose.
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We have a lot of the same purpose and agendas as many as probably all the great avatars and Buddhas and bodhisattvas have when they came in.
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When you come into fetal integration here, when you decide you're gonna incarnate on the Earth... And I think for a lot of us, it's funny, a lot of the people that I'm close to, we have no past life memories.
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We have memories of the future. We, when we see or feel or meet someone that we feel we know, we don't feel we know them from the past. We feel we know them from the future.
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And if you've come from the higher dimensions here,
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you've come from the future 'cause what really needs to be understood and when you really start to learn about time and the time matrix and the energy matrix and the, and the structure of time and consciousness and how consciousness dimensionalizes itself, you realize that what takes place in the higher dimensions actually happens in our future.
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When we dream, our consciousness detaches from its normal three-dimensional focus, and it goes into some of the lower mid astrals. It's going into the future. When we dream, we're actually
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merging or in communication with higher selves, higher identities that exist in our future. The gift of sleep and dream is to bring that information back here that we can use, that we can share in love and in fellowship.
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But when we wake up, that information, that love that you, has to process through our lower three DNA strands where most of our karmic miasmic content is, and it gets, it gets fragmented or they're static.
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Everything ultimately is filtered through the DNA.
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Even what we're talking about now for people to really understand it to optimize and maximize What we're learning here and what we're learning through the whole summit, we really have to try to do our best to clear all the karmic miasmic
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content that's presently in our DNA and use tools like the master key, for example, to learn how to correct our thinking. We have very important work to do here. You know, when we decide to come into incarnation,
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we, let's say we've come from a higher dimensional universe. Well, we project our consciousness through sets of stargates, which are black and white holes.
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Scientists, of course, know about the black holes, but you go into the magnetic black hole, it's a contracting vortex, and then you switch polarities and you go out the electrical white hole, the electrical white hole.
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So it's in the black hole, out the white hole, in the next black hole, out the white hole.
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This is how consciousness uses these stargates, which are simply structures of energy that allow consciousness to move from dimensional harmonic universe to one to another harmonic universe.
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You can take the scenic route. I mean, it's fun to be on a physical ship. If, you know, if you want to relax a little bit, watch the stars go by.
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But I'll tell you, being through, going through a stargate, that's a trip too. That's awesome. And the way it was described in the movie Contact, remember the movie Contact?
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That was really, and she contacted Lyra Vegans in that. Very, very interesting.
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See, all this stuff comes through when you see movies nowadays, realize it's in the field, that consciousness, that knowledge is in the field.
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And whether it's channeled through Britney Spears or through Carl Sagan or through us, it's, there's truth coming through.
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There's truth, but we still have to be discretional and practice a lot of discrimination about what we choose to take on, what we choose to integrate into our lives, right?
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And that goes as far as the people we associate with, the books we choose to read, the movies we watch on TV.
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It's like a lot of, you know, people, let's say they're challenged with a very serious or life-threatening illness and they do everything right. They change their lives. They change their lifestyle.
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They make all better decisions. They eat better and whatnot. But they're watching,
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what's, Invasion of the Body Snatchers and they're wondering, or even worse, you know, like slasher movies and wondering why they're not healing. That's all information.
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Does that information support your journey into healing or not? So when we decide to, third time is the charm. When we decide to come into incarnation, we go through these stargates.
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Then we have to go through the core of the earth. The core of the earth is a huge stargate. And this is what's called the planetary stargate. This is called the Templar, the planetary Templar.
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And I will tell you straight out that our human history goes back 560 million years. The history of this time matrix itself goes back at least 950 billion years. Such a rich, complex history we have, you know.
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And so we go through the core of the earth, big stargate, sometimes called the flame, the sphere of Amenti, sometimes called the heavenly gates, Peter's gates, whatnot.
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And then we go through one of the earth stargates that correspond to the interdimensional stargates. For example, you see the 1111 on the clock. I love talking about this. You probably have come in this
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latest journey from the 11th dimensional Liran system that used to be called Avion, which is now called Avalon.
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The mists of Avalon are the liquid light fields of the 10th, 11th, and 12th dimension, home of avatars, Buddhas, bodhisattvas. Their true biologies are that of pre-matter liquid light hydroplasm, like liquid mercury.
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Just beautiful. And so you individuate out of that collective. You go through the stargate. You go through the core of the earth where you leave imprints of your DNA.
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This is one of the major reasons the indigos have come. All beings leave imprints when they come into incarnation, especially the higher beings leave imprints of their DNA as they pass through the earth's core.
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Then they have to pass through one of the two stargates on the planet that correspond to the higher dimensional stargates. The stargates on the planet
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that correspond to the 11th dimensional Liran systems is one is in the Vale of Pewsey in England, where coincidentally a lot of the crop circles are.
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And I think most of those crop circles are to facilitate the passage into this world. Okay. And the little island off the coast of Ireland, the Isle of Eye.
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And then you go into that fetal integration, that first process into that first cell. So I think it was the contract of all the great avatars and bodhisattvas to incarnate on the earth and leave imprints of their DNA.
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You see, they had at least the 12 strand, what we call the diamond sun DNA. Now in this time we're in now, we're in a ascension cycle.
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The indigos waves are coming in now to really assist with this ascension cycle now, where the chakras on the planet are opening to receive consciousness, higher dimensional energy and frequency from the higher harmonic universes.
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So the planets that we can expand so we can all go into ascension. That was always the dream that the whole planet would be able to ascend. It still is the dream and it still is the hope.
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Remember, everything escaped from Pandora's box except hope. This is why. And a lot of people will say, oh, hope doesn't you're if you hope something, you're not sure it's going to happen.
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That's not really what hope means. Hope and faith, prayer, act of faith and doing something about it. You know, doing what you can to be of service on the planet.
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The indigos have come in now, and enough of us, I think, have left imprints of our DNA as we pass through the Earth's core that now all incoming souls, when they incarnate,
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pass through the Earth's core to get into that fetal integration process, into that first cell at the moment of conception. I think all incoming souls now have that same potential.
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The evolutionary path of human consciousness has always been ascension. Yes, we have contracts to be guardians, custodians of Earth's stargates because Earth's stargates allow access to the higher dimensional stargates.
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That's why everybody comes here during ascension cycles. This is where the party is. If you're not here for R&R, you're here to really help with the ascension of the planet.
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And so this is why I think the indigos have come. And there is a type of indigo. We talk about three major types of indigos. We call it indigo composite type one.
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The indigo composite type ones, they're a part of a program, a hybridization program of what's called the Orophine is one of our elder races, the Orophine, Liran Syrian Anuhazi.
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This is higher, higher dimensional races, one of the seed races that contributed their DNA to the creation of the original human race. Orophine human hybrid program. Why?
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To serve to expedite and accelerate our evolution, reaching a critical mass with what's called the diamond sun DNA matrix in our race, in our gene pool.
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The reason we've come to this planet now and come into incarnation to mix, to really contribute our genes, our genomes to the entire human gene pool so that everybody now can have those same potentials of ascension that we, quote unquote, as indigos have.
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But the indigo type ones, we have what's called an emerald order Orophine 48 strand emerald sun DNA matrix, which gives indigo type ones,
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which gives them, there are only a few on the planet, which gives them the maximum potential of 30 to 48 ascension codes, which means they can not only ascend into their soul identities or oversoul, archangelic, avatar identities, Rishik identities, they can evolve right back into ascended mastery.
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They can evolve in this lifetime, in one lifetime back into full at-one-ment, expanding out of the time matrix into these seas of cosmic sound that we call the ascended master levels.
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So the avatar identity can embody in this life and the consciousness has the potential to expand into the ascended master identity levels. But here's the thing with indigo type ones.
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Indigo type ones always incarnate through walk-in agreements. This is where indigos and walk-ins meet. And I think pretty much one of the only places that they actually meet. Whereby this type of indigo,
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a smaller soul essence from their own oversoul collective, we talk about soul as the fourth, fifth, and sixth dimensions of what we are, the angelic levels, the oversoul or the archangelic, the seventh, eighth, and ninth.
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So these indigos that always come in through walk-in agreements, a smaller soul essence from their own oversoul collective begins the incarnation. Why? To increase the frequency of the body.
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And once their DNA is sufficiently activated, their original soul identity walks out into ascension and the avatar identity walks in. Their own avatar identity walks in,
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transfers their spirit essence into the body. When I had my walk-in experience, I am not sure if it was one of these type one walk-in experiences. I think a soul identity walked in.
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But remember, the soul identity is a link between us and our oversoul identity.
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This is the wonderful thing that, especially at that age where I hadn't accumulated a lot of karma myself, I mean, how much karma can a six-year-old accumulate? But I'm sure I inherited a lot from my parents. God knows.
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I'm sure I did. That I was pretty innocent. And I think our return to innocence, as Jesus says very clearly in the Pissas Sophia, our return to innocence is really our clearing of our karma.
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Our karma because, and that is done by forgiveness and grace. That one who forgives their soul, they are placed in the position of never having been separated from the one.
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And this is why I've always felt that no matter where people think they come from, where they are, where they're going, forgiveness, gratitude, these attitudes and the etiquette of spiritual mastery that we're supposed to model
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for the people that we don't think are where we are. Everybody has a place. The Indigo Type 1s, they are for the Anunnaki races to give them their 12 strand back.
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The Indigo Type 2s are here for another reason, but we're all here in service. The Type 1 Indigos, the walk-ins, their avatar identity walks in to awaken in the body to fulfill its world service contract.
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Indigo Type 1s and Type 2s have world service contracts. Indigo Type 3s are mainly here for the races that have lost their ability to ascend because of genetic hybridization and inbreeding a long, long time ago.
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These dramas that are manifesting on the planet now, they've been going on for a very, very, very long time. Again, our history is very, very complex. The walk-in usually occurs at 12.
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Or 22, and it must occur by the age of 33.
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And if you think you're, you're an Indigo type one or someone you know, or your own child, they usually have advanced psychic, uh, abilities and sometimes direct manifestation abilities.
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They've usually had physical contact with the elder races. In childhood, and as I was saying in the beginning, they have a core life purpose.
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I mean, it's sometimes unnerving to see a small child that tells you about their core life purpose. Usually a child is, you know, when am I gonna go to play? You know?
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[laughs] You have these children talking about a core life purpose at four years old or even eight years old or even 12. Come on. You know? And they're here to do advanced planetary grid work.
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But we're s- but all Indigos are pretty sensitive to everything. We're very vulnerable, and a lot of us have often remained detached from human issues to focus on our contracts.
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But me at six years old, even, you know, I, I was getting older. It wasn't until really in my teen years, in my 20s when I went to college, that I started to... It's just a look.
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It's like in the dining hall at college, you know? Th- there's a look and you... And when the eyes meet, it's not just the, the 3D thing. You know there's something higher. There's a higher purpose for both of you.
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Whether you're supposed to do it together, that's something, you know, that takes a little bit more meditation on. But we know we have this thing in common when I look at you, when I look at the...
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A lot of people that we're involved with professionally, socially, personally, we're all being drawn together now to do this work. And these summits I think are very, very powerful focal events.
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Focusing a lot of massive human consciousness, especially those of us that carry the curse, the burden, the blessing of higher consciousness to really...
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And we have to understand, again, great responsibility comes with greater power. We have to model that for people who aren't quite there yet. We have to be real- we, we have to be very responsible with ourselves.
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And I think we're doing a pretty good job considering that most of us, for most of our lives, people coming into this work now have little or no reference to understand what's happening on the planet.
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But, but, but thank God I've been ex- you know, the walk-in. I would've probably gotten this information s- anyway, but it ha- but it came sooner because my life was at stake.
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If that walk-in hadn't happened, I, I might have come in, in another way, another life. But I'm pretty sure I chose both of my parent...
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We try to choose the circumstances in which we'll be able to maximize and optimize our lives. This is why Indigos usually we choose the circumstances of our incarnation, so we can be of the greater service.
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So we have a lot of information on our true genetic lineages, history of the angelic human, all the different races. We have billions of years of history.
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I've been in these libraries in certain places in the world that make the Vatican Library, which I've almost gotten into. I got to the door, knocked on the door.
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But I've been in libraries that make the Vatican Library look like your neighborhood library, and they can... They go on for miles underground, usually under monasteries.
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And the monks are at it every day, all day long, transcribing and re-transcribing. And what are they re-transcribing and transcribing?
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A gift, I believe, in terms of our knowledge, that we were given a couple hundred thousand years ago, 12 holographic discs. People will ask, "Where's your information come from?"
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Well, it comes from a lifetime of study also. It comes from a lifetime of study, the walk-in, lucid dream experience.
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It comes from a lot of s- great mentors, great teachers, and I take good notes, and I know you do, too. You know? We're re- very good note takers, and I don't think that takes our attention away.
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I think that really helps us. I've always been a good note taker, and I've been a good student, and I've had wonderful teachers, and I've been very, very fortunate to be in places at the right time.
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You can be in the right place at the right time, but you still gotta have your eyes open. Zip. Or you can just miss it. So we've been very fortunate, and I think the great sin is not sharing what we know. Mm-hmm.
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We're here. This is... We're right smack in the middle of an ascension cycle that happens about every 26,000 years.
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And a couple hundred thousand years ago, we were given a gift from the races that first contracted that life could stream into this time matrix 950 billion years ago,
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what we call races of the Rishi, Ra Collectives, Brenna, whatever. These are the founders races in our time matrix. Uh, we were given a gift of 12 holographic discs, and those discs have been... They've come to, to...
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We've come to know them as the Dora-Teura. Hard even getting that out. The Dora-Teura plates. D-O-R-A, hyphen, T-E-U-R-A. The Dora-Teura plates.
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And the knowledge that we have has been gained by those that have transcribed it throughout time, beings like Yeshua, Sananda, Melchizedek, his half-sister Mariam, uh, a man named Azaria that came to be known as John the Baptist.
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Many beings, Toth, Enoch, all throughout history. Uh, we've read what they've transcribed, and we've also been able...
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We've learned, me mainly through the, the dream experience in the Astral, how to directly access the information from these plates So we're not the only ones that have this information.
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Everyone has the potential to know what we know, and our job is to share everything that we know Yeah, and I 100% align on that.
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In fact, before I started studying with you, Phil, I know I said I'm only in this if it's okay for me to, you know, take it in, make it my own, and share it because it's that time where that's really so many of our purposes is to help the, the humanity ascend.
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So thank you. Thank you for sharing all that. Was that... Did, did we get to... I mean, I know we're, we're close to the end of our time [laughs] but, um- [laughs]... and, and I know you could go on forever.
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There's so much information, but, um, I, I loved the kind of the breakdown of the indigos and, um, and we're definitely gonna be able to do this again in the future, so more to come.
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But, um, did you, did you fit in the essence of what you wanted to share about them? Yeah, pretty much. I didn't wanna keep going on and on and on, and I was worried that it being so late here, almost 11:00, I would, uh,
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you know, I, I, I, I would be too ti- But you know what happens? It always happens like this. I could just get off a plane. I could just be, I'm sh- You've experienced this.
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I could just wake up five, 10, 10 minutes before, but it's like a lot of us when we're in the zone, then it just opens up. Yeah.
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And it doesn't matter how tired or overtired or jet-lagged we are, we're here and we're ready. This is why we're here. And I think what I wanna leave people... And we...
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If we do have a few more minutes to go back and forth if you have any specific questions. Um, we're all here to learn the purpose for why we're here,
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and I think there's nothing more sublime and tran- moments of transcendent poignancy when we start to open up to why we're who we are. Aren't these the most fundamental, profound questions we ask ourselves? Who are we?
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Why are we here? Why of all the planets and times, why do we choose this planet, this time? Why do we choose this moment, me and you, to be together, the summit? You know? This is a huge deal.
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It's a huge deal, and I take this very, very seriously of course because I know how important it is especially we're in such a critical juncture. There's no sitting on the fence now.
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If you don't do anything, y- you're, you know... It's, it's... The greatest sin again is not to sh- They call it the bread of shame in kabbalistic teachings.
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We're here to share, and I know people out there, and you, me, we've all had this feeling when your heart feels like it's expanding that you can't contain it in one body,
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and everything in life becomes you wanna share everything. And fortunately, and by the grace of God or whatever you wanna call it, we have a lot of knowledge
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based in love, based in love for who we, we can be, we can all be, you know, to understand who we are, why we're here, and also and not ignoring the fact that there are digressive races.
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There is consciousness that doesn't, doesn't understand the connections. We don't focus on them, but we certainly acknowledge them.
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We need to understand that they're there, we're here, and we are here to help them even if they don't understand that.
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But to understand why we're here, who we are, where we come from, what our purpose is, wow, that's, that's sublime. That's transcendent. That's beauty, and that's love.
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The expression of that love to help people understand that, and not to give them all the answers, to let them discover for themselves with their own dedicated lines of communication with their higher selves who they are, and in that discovery,
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that's where the grace is. And in moments of grace, Rudolf Steiner said it, in moments of grace we remember, and I think we're here to... That's what we're here to... Certainly one of the things.
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Try to have some fun along the way, responsibly of course, and live lives as full as we can. But always remember that everything we do is in service to the world. Mm-hmm. And then I think we're well on the way,
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you know, once we certainly have that in our minds and in our hearts, and to understand what that connection is. Yeah, indeed. Yeah. I love it. Okay.
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Um, I wanna make sure we tell people about this really cool offer that you have.
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It's your, um, reading from the Book of Fate, and it's a reading that you do, and I didn't even know that you did this until you told me about it [laughs] before this- [laughs]... um, before this interview.
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But normally it's a $300 reading. You're offering it at a special rate for 200 for the Alchemy of Ascension viewers and, and listeners. And will you share about what you get into in that reading? Sure.
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I would love to, Sheila. You know, you ever hear these stories about books falling off the shelf at people? Well, this didn't fall off the shelf. It didn't, but it,
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it was in New Zealand many, many, many, many, many, many, many years ago where I was in a used bookstore, and I was on my way to Singapore, and I was doing healings, doing hands-on healings.
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And a long, long time ago I did I Ching readings, but there's a lot of I Ching reading, uh, readers here and, and, and I was... and they... and I was on my way to Singapore again.
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They wanted to know if I did any readings, like psychic-type readings and stuff. I said, "Well, really no.
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I did I Ching reading years ago, but I'm sure in Singapore that you've got it more than enough I Ching readers here." Just like acup...
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I mean, my, my formal training is in, in acupuncturist, and people ask me, "Why don't you do acupuncture here in Singapore?" They don't need another acupuncturist, believe me. So, um-
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And, and plus I got over wanting to stick needles in people many, many years ago, you know? Right. So, um, it was fun for a while. I was really good at it. Um, [laughs] okay. So I was in this bookstore.
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It didn't fall off the shelf, but I zeroed in on it. The Book of Fate, it's called Napoleon's Book of Fate.
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In the late 1700s, Napoleon sent an expedition to, to Egypt, to the sands of Egypt, to look for treasures that lay buried under the sand, right? And I believe now that he was looking for this specifically.
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He was looking for this Book of Fate. Nostradamus is rumored to have used this to divine the future. And would- wouldn't you know it, and, and on this expedition...
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I think this was the same expedition that found the Rosetta Stone. On this expedition, there were mystics, occultists, linguists, archeologists.
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I believe he was looking for treasure, of course, but this is the treasure he was looking for. They found an untouched tomb of a high priest.
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We even know his name, Balipsus, and he was one of the high priests in the Temple of Heliopolis. Right?
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Temple of the Sun in Heliopolis, where I think a lot of the great avatars and Buddhas have done their ascension work. They found it on... There was a body of a, a mummy in an almost perfect state of preservation.
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And by the way, that mummy was in the Cairo Museum. Not there anymore. I think he's living in G- Giza maybe somewhere, you know, under a, u- under some assumed name. I mean, right? He must have get...
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I think one night he just got up and walked away, just like in the movie The Mummy. So, uh, anyway, they found this scroll.
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He was h- held the scroll to his chest, this old papyrus scroll that was only meant to be seen by the high of the highest priest, or else or lower, right? Um, in any case, you're... it's bad.
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So the translation of the scroll was The Roll of Man's Fate. The Roll of Man's Fate. And it consisted of a number of questions.
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See, what I love about this oracle is people may think they have questions what they want to know. This oracle doesn't care about what you think you wanna know. It will tell you what you need to know.
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So when we have a reading, there is a 32 questions you have to choose for them, and they are range from everything from love life, to career, to this, to that. Pretty much everything.
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There was only one person in hundreds of readings that couldn't find any questions he wanted answered from the list. He says, "What do I do?" I go, "Goodbye." [laughs] So long. Nothing I can do for you.
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So, or nothing the Book of Fate can do for you. You choose the questions, and by a very special process unique to this oracle, the, the, the numbers you choose, you...
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I ask you for sets of numbers for each question that you choose, and from the numbers, I make a geometrical design out of these stars, a design of stars, and that design of stars leads us to the answers which are in The Book of Fate.
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So you not only choose the questions, your choices lead us to the answers. It is an oracle unlike any oracle I have ever seen. It is scary accurate, you know? I love it.
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I've done hundreds of hundreds of readings, and they've all been unique. There's been something unique about all of them. I enjoy doing this so much. It's more than just a reading, more than just an oracle. It's a tool.
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I believe that the questions and answers... Remember, we know that language are wave- translated to wave patterns. It's a mathematical program.
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So I believe that the questions and answers you get create a linguistic bridge, create an electromagnetic bridge, a mathematical bridge to contact higher selves which know a- things you don't know.
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The answers are not written in stone, and 'cause stone can turn to powder long enough, but it will give you that elevated, exalted perspective that I talked about
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in the beginning, where you see from a much higher perspective. You see how ordered everything really, really is. And that's a good place to be, especially when you're in this world of seeming chaos, to get instruction.
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If it tells you something you already know, great, you got confirmation. And if it tells you something you didn't know, great, now you know something you didn't know. So you can't lose with this oracle.
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And it is really gift for me to be able to, to offer this reading to people- Mm... at a reduced rate. It takes about at least 75 minutes. Wow. And, uh, so I'm really, really happy to be able to offer this.
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I think it's a great tool for healing, for understanding. Thank you, Phil. And sign me up. [laughs] I love it. Well, you get one anyway, be... You know. Yeah, yeah. Uh, you- I'm, I'm excited.
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I really would love to hear...
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So for anyone who does sign up for this with Phil, you know, if you wanna share, I'd love to hear your results as well, because everything I know that, Phil, everything you do is, is so in-depth and, and there's a ton of thought put into it, and you're channeling.
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And, you know, like it's, it's, it's not an accident that, um, that I hired you as a mentor. And I have... I've interviewed a lot of people. I've met a lot of people in this work in 30 years of practice myself.
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And you have very high content in everything you offer. So I, I endorse you. And, uh, I, I look forward to hearing from all of the people who choose to get a reading with you. I know it will be amazing.
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Well, it really is. And I know I came in at the last minute. And, um, it really... I just want you to know, and everybody Who's on this broadcast, that it really is...
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I, I feel it very deeply, and I, I feel it's a privilege and an honor. I just... The love I have for, for you and, and, and anybody who's drawn to this work is really the love that knows no earthly bounds.
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It's not a love that's limited to here and where we are. It's... I, I see, uh, you know, I... It, it's even hard for me to, to talk about because it's, it's, it's, it's that feeling that sometimes is hard to describe.
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As glib as I can be, you know, when it really c- when it comes to matters of the heart, sometimes I'm really cool with just not saying anything. And
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I know I'm in service, and I feel so proud and so grateful, perpetually, eternally grateful, not just to have this information but to have outlets to be able to share this.
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So I thank you, thank you so much because it is my joy. It is my life. It's great. I mean, the contract may change. A couple years from now I don't know what I'll be doing, you know? I might be, I don't know.
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You never know, right? But right now
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I know that this is what I'm here to do, and I would just wish for, for anybody to know right at that, at, in that, in any given moment that they're, what they're doing is what they're meant to be doing, even if it's a bridge to something else.
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Mm-hmm. Enjoy the journey. Enjoy the gift. You know, be in service. And, and, uh, and that's really it. That's, that's, that's really all I can say. There's knowledge galore.
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And for people that want to use it for, for their, for their service and to fulfill their lives and fulfill their contracts, whatever that might be,
1:02:55
this is, this is my joy, and it's a privilege, and it's an honor, and it's really... I can't thank you enough- Mm... really for this opportunity.
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If it wasn't for you, I'd be, you know, I'd be sitting, I'd be watching Netflix now, which is not, which is, you know, there's, there's a lot to be gained from that.
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But if it wasn't for you and people like you, I'd be talking to myself. And believe me, I get, I can get tired of that pretty quick too, you know? [laughs] Phil, you crack me up, and I love just your generosity.
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You are so of service, and I hope everyone listening can feel your heart and just how much you, you desire to share and uplift. And I invite everyone to, you know, really anchor that information.
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That was some high level information that Phil shared with us today, so to really anchor that into your own embodiment, into your heart.
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If you feel, um, called to do the oracle reading with Phil, I will have his email address in the show notes. So you can get it there, contact him, and schedule your time. And that is it.
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We are out of time, and I'm just so grateful for everyone. Thank you for tuning in to today's show as well as the entire Alchemy of Ascension season five, and I wish you the best on your journey. Namaste.
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